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What would you do? Posted 6:56 PM on 01/22/08 -  Reply to this post

If you bought a list of names and contact information of people who fit your ideal customer profile and who you suspected would be buying a service like yours in the next 5-10 days, what would you do? Would you cold call these people or is there a better option?

Shad M

You can't run away from the hard stuff Posted 4:12 PM on 01/23/08 - Reply to this post

I don't even know how you could obtain a list of people buying a car(you said before you sell cars)in the next 5-10 days. Even if you do, the "do not call" registry is always an issue when calling individuals. If you still haven't developed some creative things to say, engaging questions, and done some of the other "hard stuff" I mentioned before, then what do you plan on saying even if you get them? "Uh, I bought a list that says you plan to buy a car, want one from me?" Can you say "not interested"? You need to figure out a way to reach this ideal customer profile in a more creative manner. Just so you know, the marketing stats show that any "bought" list usually provides 1% return or less. Thats 5 people out of every 500 called. You want to be the one making all those calls? Why not develop a relationship with a local insurance agent? When his clients call and have wrecked their cars, they need new ones right? Or maybe they call to add their new 16 year old to the policy, they need an older car for that, right? Figure out a way to be valuable to him, and he will be valuable to you. Do the hard work it takes to make YOUR phone ring, not work hard making other phones ring. Their is another guy who sells cars who posted a few weeks ago about marketing to a local school. Try that. But for the love man, do something besides what everyone else does. IT DOESN'T WORK! You'll figure it out sooner or poorer......

Salty

How come Gitomer isn't answering questions here? Posted 5:35 PM on 01/23/08 - Reply to this post

Yes, in that specific situation and assuming I couldn't secure an introduction or referral I would contact those prospects directly. The other two choices are; do nothing or wait for them to contact you. Be proactive and initiate contact. Regarding what Shad posted: ---If you've purchased the list from a reliable list broker who scrubs their lists against the DNC registry then you're good to go. ---Since you haven't said otherwise or asked what to say I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that once you've made contact you know what to say and wouldn't utter something as naive as what Shad posted which was; "Uh, I bought a list that says you plan to buy a car, want one from me?" so again you're good to go. ---I can tell you that in my experience when contacting a highly targeted list with a highly relevant offer the returns we achieved were quite high. Of course, depending on the timing, the offer, the list and the method of contact mileage may vary.

newbie

Prescription before diagnosis is malpractice. Posted 7:19 PM on 01/23/08 - Reply to this post

I don't sell cars Shad. My question about a young man selling automobiles was a hypothetical example. My question about a list is also a hypothetical example. These are both situations that come up for some salespeople and I'm intersted in seeing what kind of answers I would get on a "sales training forum" like this. Thank you for responding to both of my questions.

Saleswhip

Newbie I got ur back Posted 9:10 PM on 01/23/08 - Reply to this post

Newbie, What you can do is contact the credit bureaus and purchase a list from them. The credit companies have really been making a killing over the last five years or so by selling lists that are triggered by a consumer inquiring to make a purchase. You can work with the credit bureau to "filter" out what data you want and don't want. Five years ago when I was cold calling I would use these leads to call on. I actually made TONS of money. I can tell you from personal experience that you can make money on the phone and lots of it. (2004 I was well over 300K in the first SIX months of the year.) Cold calling is a great way to help build your client list. As this should only be one way of generating business it can be a HUGE way to build you client list. More than half of my 600 loyal customer were generated by cold calling. Your biggest asset if you are in the car business is to simply play the numbers that means you need to GET IN FRONT OF CUSTOMERS! Like our self loving friend Shad suggested web sites are a great tool to use to generate business. The big picture is that you need to build your LIST of happy qualified loyal and able clients that will talk about you remember you and refer you. Remember this newbie, you can be anyone you want.... when you're are on the phone. Saleswhip

Shad M

Get off mine please Posted 10:55 AM on 01/24/08 - Reply to this post

Are personal attacks ("Self loving friend shad") really necessary? Simply because you don't agree with my assessment? I am offering advice that has worked for ME, to be helpful because I believe that if I help someone, then I might get helped down the line. You do not have to agree with me, I'm ok with that. Newbie led me to believe that he/she sells cars in a previous post, I went with that analogy because I didn't know it was a hypothetical. I realize nobody would actually say "uh, I bought a list of names and sell cars". I used that as a dramatic example for effect, not to accuse others of being stupid, which is obviously how you took it. I meant no disrespect to Newbie or anyone else. Disagreement is healthy, but why do you attack me because you don't agree with me? Isn't that petty? Newbie, the quote "you can be who you want to be on the phone" is a quote from a movie called "Boiler Room". It was a movie about guys who lied to their clients in order to scam them out of money. It was an illegal firm. It is a horrible movie, anyone who promotes lying to get business is not ethical. You can be "YOU" on the phone, no one else. Integrity should be at the heart of what we do. Sales people have enough to overcome without adding to the stereotypes. I encourage you to be Hypothetically YOU on your hypothetical phone. Interity breeds trust, trust breeds sales, sales breed referrals, and referrals breed more sales. It's a great cycle if you can ride it! Again, I personally apologize if you found my original response rude, degrading, or anything other than what it was intended...helpful. Thanks!

Shad M

Gitomer does answer Posted 10:59 AM on 01/24/08 - Reply to this post

Gitomer does answer some of them, but he does it in his weekly ezine. I've seen several posted there. Kind of cool because I also answered the same one. Interesting to see how I stack up...

Don

This is what I'd do Posted 9:37 AM on 02/19/08 - Reply to this post

You don't mention the product you're selling, which may impact your approach, but to answer your question directly, if I had a list of prospects likely to buy what I sell in the next 5 to 10 days, I'd be on the phone yesterday with an offer. For example, "This is xxxx with ABC Company. We sell new Chevrolets. We are the only 5 star service award winner in the area, and we guarantee to match or beat any competitors price quote. Is that the kind of dealer you're looking for."

Freeze

New Clients Posted 3:33 PM on 01/21/08 -  Reply to this post

I enjoy sales, I have been doing it for a couple of months but the crazy thing about it is I have only made about a few clients. I was hired as a marketing consultant for a cluster of radio stations and I have gone through cold call heck lately. The town I work in has never had a local full-time consultant as myself. I have done everything lately to try an attract more businesses. I make lots of calls, have appointments, build relationships, get no call-backs, no returned calls, and nobody seems interested in my services. I create value and benefit with my services, my initial introduction is great, my presentation and close is informative and non-manipulative. I am not the only one in the agency who has had this trouble with the town. How can I create a need for businesses I know that need it?

Jeff G

Slow Your Roll Posted 9:58 AM on 01/22/08 - Reply to this post

You're telling us you create value and benefit and that your intro is great. If that were true, it would be working. Since results are really the only thing that matter, there's something wrong with this picture. That said, you may be coming across a little "slick" which starts well and feels like it's going well, but doesn't close. The reason it doesn't close and you won't know why is because people won't come out and say, "You're a bit too polished and slick and I'm afraid you're just trying to sell me instead of help me." People don't give you that feedback, so to you the failure will remain a mystery. You'll walk around wondering why the meeting went so well, but you still don't have a check in your hand. Try stepping back a little, slowing down your process and relaxing a bit more. Instead of trying to close the deal at the first indication that it may be time, keep waiting and going slow. Let them want it so when you finally do flourish that proposal or contract, they've already got a pen in their hand. Just my two cents. I hope it helps.

Shad M

You can't create need, help them find it Posted 2:46 PM on 01/22/08 - Reply to this post

First, you'd be better off watching TV than cold calling. Not getting return calls is easy to fix. When you get voicemail just say "This is "Freeze" calling for Mr. Customer. My number is 555-4444. Thank you". 90% or better call back rate. Now, before you try that, figure out something better to say than "I'd like to sell you radio advertising" when they call back. Otherwise, this method will get you abused pretty badly. I have a question, if you build relationships like you say, why aren't you getting call backs and interest? You need to find out. ASK people why. If they say "not interested" find out why. Is it money, is it need, is it YOU? Only one of those are easily fixable (hint: It's YOU). Trying to create a "need" is manipulation in my opinion. If you know they need what you have, then figure out a compelling way to explain that to your prospects. Don't TELL THEM why you think they need it. Your job is to HELP THEM draw that conclusion on their own by asking smart questions, knowing a little about them, and offering new ideas. THAT is the way to get results. It ain't easy, but it is worth it.

J

Relationships Posted 3:16 PM on 08/27/08 - Reply to this post

I really agree with Shad. If you truly built the great relationships that you say you have, just ask. I have great relationships with some of my clients and they'll tell me anything, sometimes too much. I've had guys tell me what their home mortgage is, how much they take home a year, etc, and I sell industrial chemicals. If you help them like a friend, you will become a friend.

K C

Confused Posted 10:49 PM on 01/20/08 -  Reply to this post

Jeffrey, I am an insurance agency owner for a large well known insurance company. We offer a very cool new auto policy product and new enhancements to that product that give us a competitive edge. I also provide awesome personalized service. This product was designed by asking our customers what they wanted from their insurance company. We also took agent input and added some other thoughts. Anyway, one of my sales reps has been working with one of my present customers who is insured on another line of business. We outlined the options of the new product and quoted her on her auto. She liked everything and seemed to be wanting to move ahead. My rep called her to follow up because her policy was about to renew and she called back and said that she had contacted her present company and they were able to rewrite her policy and drop her rate quit a bit. This company had none of the benefits that we offered her and she had to call them in order for them to tell her that she could get written at a better rate. I guess I don't understand one thing, I know for a fact that we have an excellent report and relationship, because she tells everyone that I am awesome and my staff is awesome. I am in a networking group with her and she has even given me a written testimony letter on one of my sales reps. The really weird thing is that she just until recently, used to be a sales trainer. Got any ideas of what went wrong? I am going to call her and ask, but we provided value upfront by asking questions of what she wanted and also asked questions about what she needed as well as creating doubt about her present insurance in the first place. You know, when was the last time you really took a look at comparing not only price but products as well? She said that she was satisfied with her current company until I created some doubt?

Shad M

Who knows..... Posted 12:41 PM on 01/21/08 - Reply to this post

K C, You asked Jeffrey, but since it got posted here, I'll offer my .02 worth of advice. It is possible she just needed a better price. Plus, it may have been "easier" in her mind to keep what she has (change of any kind i difficult for some people). And she may have had a slick talking agent that made it so irresistible that she couldn't say no. The list of possibilities is endless. I'd sure like to know what her answer is when you get it. You know, my wife is viciously loyal to USAA for our auto insurance. I have friends that sell Allstate and I'd like to switch. But I can't convince my wife to agree and since I don't rule with an iron fist we just stay put. It is possible her husband and her can't agree also. You may find that your rep was an issue as well, maybe they didn't "click" or maybe she felt you should have cared enough to handle it personally. My CEO hands me deals every now and again, but when it comes to selling to people he knows and has a rapport with, he handles them personally. I'd say in the future you should try that as well. Show them you aren't to good to do the "dirty work" and you'll win every time.

 

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